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Nicole

hi claire,
it's too fun reading your uncensored live thoughts while watching the show we were both at tonight.

your comments are indeed bitchy. a little cynical after 10 years of apature, huh?

claire

you KNOW it!

bjr

claire, you is KILLIN me with your write-up's. but more power to you; you're actually attending the events. i'm sittin here in the quiet of my own private space discontented with the current state of API spoken word and not coming out to see folks.

claire

girl, you better come on thursday to "get lit" at the lab. you can sit by me and we can talk trash together. in fact ... bring your laptop!

by the way, all bitchiness aside, Amir, Leah, and NaR were worth hearing, on the lit front. not 'cause they're all there yet, but because the energy is there, and the rest can come later. that's what apature's all about.

bjr

Boo! You know, we've already made dinner plans that night - with another poet, in fact. But totally agreed on "not all there yet, but the energy is there."

T

get a fucking clue. queer api folks dont have a venue to connect. within the minority of being queer, we further stand out as being asian...we get hit with shit from white lgbt folks and our api families, apparently from arrogant, middle class straight asian reviewers too. hey, it was a amazing, one of a kind experience for me to see faces that look like mine, to hear some passionate people who want to affect societal changes... or even purely entertainment. On some level, YOU - THE BLOGGER, understand the desire to connect with community. Why else are you involved with KSW? Apparently, you don't have the depth to comprehend how a further marginalized group would really value a space to connect. Its easy isn't it? sitting on fold out chair criticizing everyone onstage. Your lack of perspective as a reviewer establishes your place in the peanut gallery of mediocrity. I'm going to quote you - "Aaaaand we're done. In, out, and on with our lives" YAWN

claire

t, i'm glad you had a great experience at apature.

maybe you're new to the bay, but queer api folks have a number of venues to connect. there are actually quite a few queer api organizations in the bay area that put on events throughout the year: GAPA, trikone (desi), south bay queer and asian, AQU25A for youth, among others. the queer cultural center tends to have an api event in its annual queer arts festival, and the api cultural center tends to have at least one queer event in its annual api festival.

which is not to argue that there shouldn't be more queer api events. but, reading your comment, i get the impression that you didn't read my post carefully, or else didn't read the whole post. because what i was doing was debating the benefit of having a separate queer night vs. the benefit of not separating queer artists out from the rest of the api artists. i can't imagine that anyone can fault me for debating this issue. ghettoizing queer artists within the larger apa community is a legitimate concern, as you yourself stated above.

i would suggest that your anger comes more from the fact that i dared to criticize the artists performing. if you look at the other posts you'll see that i'm bitchy about all of the artists, not just the queer ones. the queer artists are as strong (and as weak) as anybody, and don't need a special pass from me

perhaps it comes across as arrogance, but i prefer to think of it as entitlement instead. as one of apature's founders, a longtime organizer, and someone who has also performed (read) at apature (and, i'm sure, been the subject of bitchy comments during and after), i absolutely feel entitled to both comment on the quality of the work presented, and on the way the festival was organized.

if you feel strongly about the queer arts night at apature, however, you should know that the apature organizing committee is open to all volunteers. try asking to have your name put on a list of potential volunteers for next year, and you can ensure that apature continues to organize things the way you like.

don't worry, you won't cross paths with me; i'm no longer directly involved with apature. it's why i'm carping from the sidelines.

T

I’m not upset about the criticism. Constructive criticism is great. Is a tool to support.

The thing is, you don’t even go into this with an open mind. You’re wary of the concept of watching folks onstage who all identify as queer. I wonder what the underlying reason for that is? Of course LGBTQ folks are on other nights. Perhaps on other nights they would prefer to just be considered performers… and perceive themselves as being “ghettoized” if you used their sexual orientation as an identification.

This night is different. Your suggestion that it “strips other nights of queer performers” disregards the power of the people in the space claiming themselves as asian and queer. Following your line of thought, I might suggest APAture strips the city of SF during that entire week of API performers. Also interesting that the straight chick is concerned with “ghettoizing” identity, while all the homos in the joint had a rockin’ good time with all their API homo friends and community.

I’m disappointed that someone of status within this organization(even if you’re not currently active in many ways, this is not a personal blog –its associated with the website) is representing KSW in some capacity like a snotty, catty, popular girl from jr. high. I wonder if your criticism and its intent is meant constructively or if its dismissive? I wonder if you have any perspective that this event very likely drew in audience members who would not otherwise be inclined to APAture? I wonder if your writing is an example of what I feel, alienated from going into art spaces defined by purists and elitists?

I’m disappointed that you don’t acknowlege the OUTSTANDING turnout for an event at KSW. Especially for a Monday night. Extra chairs had to be brought out. The crowd had an enthusiam that I hadn’t seen at other KSW events I have attended. Such as the bungled film night with H.P. Mendoza. Or the 5 audience members at a recent chapbook release.

Sure you’re totally entitled to your perspective. You’re entitled, especially because its your blog. Kudos to you and all of your activism/performance and undoubtedly multiple semesters of of AA studies classes and years at KSW. You’ve been around so long that you’ve see these themes a millions times!

However,the “boundaries” and “structures” you’re so fond of are stifling to some of us. Thank god some people have the capacity to think and live outside of those imposed borders---. (perhaps this is where you’ll insert one of your witty, catty Kathy Griffin remarks?)


High fuckin’ five to Elokin Cheung for finding all the people she found, for having the spirit to make something NEW happen. If she had to come up against people like you to make it happen, I adore her even more.

claire

silly t! i'm guessing here, but you didn't do too well with reading comprehension in school, did you?

i'm not going to get into a "yes you did" "no i didn't" fight with you here ... so, uh, you win. when i said

On the one hand, having all queer stuff in one night gives the queer community a chance to rally around one particular event at APAture, and outreach can go farther out into the community than just Asians. Everybody can make an effort to show up tonight, instead of frittering themselves out over several different events and missing each other. It's that much-vaunted term "community-building," live, in the flesh.

i DIDN'T ACTUALLY MEAN that "a further marginalized group would really value a space to connect."

and when I wrote "having all LGBT stuff in one night gives normative folks the opp to just ignore the whole thing" I DIDN'T ACTUALLY MEAN that api queers are marginalized, as in: "we get hit with shit from white lgbt folks and our api families."

you're right! you win! now you can go away and tell all your friends how you smacked that bad, mean, heteronormative BITCH down and she had to run whimpering away.

*whimper*

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